I love food, and I hate food.
I am jealous of people who "do lunch", their main objective being to catch up and have a good chat rather than the meal itself. All those people in cafés and restaurants, and - unbelievably! - walking down the street eating a bag of chips. How the hell do they navigate that one? Oh, right, because they don’t hate food, food is just sustenance or something to enjoy or something to discover and share.
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I have "good" and "bad" foods, and "good" and "bad" shelves in my cupboards on which to store it. There is dirty food and clean food, beige food and green food, [I wish I could think of something else to go there that rhymes with clean and green because that would be really cool, but anyhow…] You get the idea. Food is Hard.
That's all aside from what voices and Marigold do to my eating habits. Food Stuff is one set of rules, then voices and Marigold impose their own. Voices transform my food so that what used to be a plate of stir-fried vegetables is now a plate of excrement, or if I bite into something such as a plum it could change into a tarantula, with half of it still in my mouth and the rest in my hand. So I'm heavily restricted what I can eat because obviously I try to avoid the chances of stuff like that happening as much as possible. Unfortunately most fruit and veg is off limits because most things have the potential to transform into a nasty creature, and the very few things that are on the safe list have to get scrubbed and soaked and sterilised and boiled so much that there's probably not much goodness left in them anyway.
So, with my limited range of Safe and Clean food, I then have to negotiate the normal bog-standard Food Stuff. So I binge and I puke, I fast and I take too many laxatives and diuretics. I'm terrified of eating in front of others, I keep a careful check on any food-related twitter and facebook updates I make to ensure I talk about spinach as often as I talk about cake [at least the consumption thereof even if not the cravings for ;)]. It's hard, it's no fun hating food, but you know that already, right? This is nothing new.
Only, I'm fat. Yes fat, not overweight. I don't mind the word fat, it's just a descriptive word like short or blonde or loud. Call me "plump" and you'll likely get a slap round the head with a wet fish, "plump" is for middle-aged piano teachers and members of the WI. Try to do that dumbass embarrassing bit "you don't need to lose weight, silly!" and I'll probably kick you in your delicate regions. Well I won't, but I'll want to ;)
I really am fat, I'm not one of those bloody annoying stick-thin models moaning that they're fat when they only have to look at a cross-trainer and their abs become instantly 14% tighter. Cross-trainers probably don't even have anything to do with abs - I wouldn't know because I'm fat. I don't think I even have abs, let alone know which part of a gym makes them tighter. And I don't have the luxury of blaming medication or any other outside influences, my fat is all mine. I don't mind, I don't particularly love it but I don't hate it either, it's just me.
I wish I were anorexic.
I really, really do, despite my earlier "it's just me". I know that's a terrible thing to say, and it's one of those things often said off-the-cuff by people who just want to lose a few pounds and are finding it tough to stay out of the biscuit tin. A bit like the people who say they wish they had OCD because they have a lot of housework to do.
But I don't want to lose a few pounds. Or any pounds. Well, not for me. But because I believe it's the only way I'd get help, support, input, even acknowledgement.
OK, we all know about the Cuts meaning many people no longer receiving the treatment they so desperately need, and even before the Cuts we all know how dire eating disorder services can be. But despite that, anorexia is seen as the ultimate in eating disorders and even if there is really bad treatment or no treatment at all, at least it gets acknowledged. No-one can argue with you if they can see the outline of your bones through your clothes. No-one can accuse you of hiding food and eating it secretly if you only weigh 6 stone. No-one would assume you are fine without even asking you, if you only took up half of an average-sized chair.
People [and by people, I mean healthcare professionals] don't believe I have Trouble With Food. [I'd never say I have an eating disorder because I don't, I occasionally talk about it in terms of eating distress but I just usually prefer to refer to it in the context of Food Somethingorother. It's easier.]
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| "But I haven't eaten for a week" |
I HATE the word 'appetite', it means nothing like they use it to mean. Appetite is hunger, appetite is wanting to eat; I could feel hungry after a period of not eating but still not eat anything. Appetite is different from amount and type of food consumed and whether that food is purged or not. So asking solely about appetite is about as useful as a car mechanic only testing the headlights.
I long for the day when a healthcare professional listens to what I say when I talk about food, or even just bothers to ask me the same questions as everyone else. Instead of looking at me and instantly judging me based on what I look like. That's what I mean when I say I wish I had anorexia, I just want to be taken seriously for once. Even if I still get treated like shit or no treatment at all, I just want to be heard.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying being dragged to a dining room and made to eat a meal or being tube fed or anything else is something I want to happen to me. People who are at the lower end of the weighing scales do get horrendous treatment, barbaric even. I'm not trying to say it's easy to be that way. I just want to be able to ask for help in the same way I would be able to if I weighed 6 stone. I want to have a conversation with someone about the difficulties I have with food without feeling like they're judging me and assuming I'm making it up. I want to be able to talk to someone about it and know I'm being taken seriously. I want someone to ask me the same questions they'd ask anyone else, and actually listen to my answers, without just nodding and writing down "says she has a good appetite".


Yeah, I've gotten the same thing here. I don't have all the issues around food that you do, but as someone who binges as well, no one seems to care. I think only one doc has even asked, and then there was no follow up or talking about it or anything. Usually I just get told I should exercise and try to lose some weight. The counselor I saw for a long time didn't even bother with it.
ReplyDeleteJust our world we have here now. People are fat, everyone is used to it, no one gives it any thought to how it happened to any given person or if there's more going on there.
"eating disorder" "eating distress" "disordered eating" call it what you like- they're all the same thing- yet only one has a clearly defined set of diagnostic criteria and therefore any sort of suggested treatment path.
ReplyDeleteAs you know the MH system hates anyone who does not fit into a box- you have even less chance of fitting into a box if you're fat.
I receive treatment for my eating disorder now- now that I weigh less than I ever have since I was about 12 and my trousers should have an "age 10-11" on the label instead of a size.
My eating disorder was at it's worst and most dangerous symptom wise this time last year- I would spend my days purging until I bled- then eating and purging some more. A combination of medication and all the eating meant I was fat- nobody even used the words "eating disorder" and I was left to go on my merry, puking, starving, bingeing way.
This year, my symptoms changed and I started restricting- this was my "normal" pattern- I have done it as required for around 25 years. This year though something was different and the weight fell off. Not enough weight fell off really I have remained in the "healthy" BMI category- even though I have assumed the appearance of a concentration camp inmate. My fight for any sort of treatment has been long- but when I started losing huge amounts of weight in short periods of time suddenly everyone was interested. Not interested enough to allow me to access specialist eating disorder treatment- as my weight remained "healthy" but interested enough to finally include it in my care plan.
So now, even though I don't fit nicely into a box, I receive treatment for the ED alongside treatment for my other MH issues. My care team are good, I'm lucky, thanks to much fighting on my behalf I have a psychologist (ongoing psycho-dynamic- not 6 weeks of CBT)a dietitian (not a MH dietitian as I'm not thin enough- but she is advised by the ED team)a CPN and of course a psychiatrist- a psychiatrist who finally wrote to the rest of the team 3 weeks ago and said "Zoe has an eating disorder"
I was first referred to said psychiatrist in Nov 2009 after walking in to my GPs surgery and saying "I have an eating disorder and it's out of control- I need help".
Obviously I went somewhat mental and muddied the waters a little- but the ED was always so tied up in it. I would get psychotic- mainly because I am mental but certainly not helped by going for lengthy periods of time not eating or lengthy periods of time puking myself insides-out. My eating and brain chemistry were intrinsically linked- the mental and the ED fed off each other and then goaded each other into action.
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So where am I now? Well I'm closely monitored (weighed a lot) and everyone in my team questions me about my eating habits. Recently my eating habits have got a lot more normal and I am doing well ED recovery wise, I have seen a marked improvement in my MH as a result.
ReplyDeleteThis is partly due to the large amount of support I get, partly due to guidance from the dietitian, partly to do with therapy- but ultimately it's to do with me putting on my big-girl pants, feeling the fear and doing it anyway.
I have been told, asked, persauded, begged and threatened for about a year now by many knowledgeable people- they all said the same things- stop starving yourself, stop making yourself sick, stop categorising food, stop obsessing over food. All said repeatedly "we're here for you, we support you" but I carried on. It wasn't until I could actually do what I needed to do that any of this support become useful.
So part of my tale is that all disordered eating is ultimately a symptom of something else, it's all serious and life altering- whatever your appearance or weight- all sufferers of EDs- whatever their manifestation need and deserve the right guidance and support.
The other part is- until the sufferer can commit to actually makes changes- even small ones- that support is as good as useless anyway. Your brain doesn't work if you don't feed it right- everything is distorted.
I was going to insert some platitudes here about how unfair the system is and how much you deserve to get the support you need and how MH professionals need to listen to you. I know there's no point- it's probably not going to happen. You may get some help if you spell out what you've written above to the right health professional and get lucky but chances are unless you can get yourself thin enough to fit inside that box nobody will be that interested.
What can happen though is that you take control a little bit. It's not easy- every minute of every day is a struggle- it's not like alcohol where you can just give it up for a while- food had to be dealt with throughout the day. Make one commitment to yourself, pick one thing to fight Marigold about and feel the fear and do it anyway.
But do try and get someone to listen- show someone what you've written here. Print it out, stick it in an envelope and post it to your psychiatrist. You ain't right Aliquant- whatever your appearance says and you need and deserve help.
Being mental is hard enough without food being your enemy.
Much love
Zoë
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Heh. The Eating Disorders hierarchy, eh? It's not easy not being anorexic in a community that acknowledges EDs. Sometimes I wonder if that sense of not being worthy of help or taken seriously is just because of the weight difference, or if it is a part of the reason for the eating distress in the first place. At times of my heaviest I was at my most desperation for people to notice, but I wanted them to notice the pain and care about me, not to note the eating distress because I was way too ashamed of that. Then at my lowest weight I wanted and didn't want the help being pushed at me, actually i think a big part of me enjoyed the constant slapping away of helping hands, but underneath that, I just wanted an end to it, and for the matter to be taken out of my hands. But the helpers couldn't have pleased me either way.
ReplyDeleteI love food now. It's taken over 17 years of solid work, pain, headaches, sweat and tears and lapses and regret and anger and bitterness and stomach pains and sleepless nights, and frankly I'll never be a normal, but it's close enough. And it is entirely doable.
I hope you can find a way to ask for what you need. Love to you Ali.
Jo x
"A couple of nurses I had the misfortune to recently meet actually informed me I have a good appetite, as in "...and you have a good appetite, don't you" and wrote down that happy fact without giving it a second thought." - uh-huh.
ReplyDeleteI did have the low BMI and the red trays and the insistances that I "must" eat. Then I was put on an anti-psychotic, up shot my weight without me having to change my eating habits at all, and now I get told that they "know I eat" when I'm well, because oh look, you seem well and you've put loads of weight on... And it becomes one less thing for them to have to bother asking about.
I wish they'd ask the proper questions too. But then asking them means getting answers and that means doing something and unfortunately in a lot of ways the professionals would rather avoid any of that, too much like hard work.
I wish I could say something that would help you with your eating, but I don't know what. So all I can say is that I've read this, and I think/hope I've heard you.
Take care,
Differently
What a wonderful and much needed piece. This highlights so many pertinent issues about the politics of eating distress, how it’s perceived and the private pain many women live with unacknowledged. I’ve always felt that the main diagnostic categories with their inherent hierarchy were crude because they essentially diagnose by actions and appearance alone and ignore thoughts and feelings. Anorexic thinking exists in those with high BMI’s and is as crippling in a larger body as it is in a smaller one. Chaotic eating and purging is as dangerous in a larger body as it is a smaller one; people can lose their teeth, bowel function, kidney function, develop diabetes, osteoporosis and suffer cardiac arrest, at any size. I’ve seen it.
ReplyDeleteWhat is even more galling is how EDU’s who damaged people in the first place will then turn their backs on them if they end up at the high end of the BMI scale.
Staff often don’t appreciate how metabolism can be so fucked up with chaotic eating that it is possible to not lose or even gain weight during periods of starvation as the body desperately holds onto fluid. It’s the extreme of eating/not eating the yo-yoing that is actually more likely to result in higher weight.
I’ve witnessed friends with high BMI’s being ignored not eating in an acute unit where the thinner person is harassed about eating because it’s assumed it matters more, yet I’ve seen my larger friends go dollally without adequate food/drink and have pointed out to staff they need to take notice. Equally, I know what you’re saying Ali about staff not believing whether you’ve eaten or not, and not eating being seen as somehow game playing. They also don’t take into account how crap psych ward food is! For what it’s worth Ali, your friends who care about you see you as Ali, not fat, or anything else, your size is irrelevant to them.
There’s NO appreciation of ED beyond anorexia/bulimia/compulsive eating as broad categories, in that people’s eating can be OCD related, which means it’s not necessarily all about size/weight, or can be hearing/seeing voices related which again is not about size/weight. It’s a complex subject and there’s been no innovation within ED services, infact anorexics have to be at lower weights now before they can access a service. Admission happens at lower weights now, and I believe this reflects societies collective distorted body image. Size 10 used to be thin, now you gotta be an 8, 6 or 4 to be viewed as thin in the eyes of many. Anorexia and obesity I’ve always viewed to be two sides of the same coin, that whatever an individual’s inner landscape and life experiences are, living in a society which worships youth & thinness and vilifies fat is bound to produce anorexia, obesity, and every manifestation of distressed eating you can think of.
People shouldn’t have to be a certain size to ‘prove’ and ‘demonstrate’ their distressed relationship with food and eating – we should just bloody well listen because pain is what the person says it is. Instead it’s assumed by size alone how it is for a person.
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You speak a lot of sense Zoe, I like what you say too. I agree with you about making a single commitment to yourself and taking back a bit of control, also regarding how thinking is altered by what we do physically. I don’t think we appreciate just how bad starving/bingeing/purging makes us feel mentally and how it impacts on cognitive functioning until we start reining it in. I never realised how disabled I was until I stopped taking industrial quantities of laxatives/diuretics and vomiting. Eating a decent breakfast made a huge difference and agreeing with myself to never starve, this stopped the swings in blood sugar. Then I agreed with myself to 2 decent meals a day – breakfast and a lunch or dinner, depending on whether I was with someone or not so I had the option to have a lunch or dinner out if I wanted to. This doesn’t mean I never restrict or over eat it means this ‘base level’ affords me more physical stability and therefore mental stability because my body isn’t constantly reeling. Then the harder bit – how I feel. I decided to accept the fact that I will never feel thin or that attractive, therefore I no longer do battle with it, I accept it and put in my psychological ‘virus vault’. That freed me out of the ‘I’m too fat to be seen’ thinking. I also reclaimed the scales from ED services, I weigh myself, yes once a day, because whatever I feel the scales don’t lie, for me it’s just ticking it off the list, no I haven’t gained half a stone over night, it doesn’t determine my day, it’s a physical reassurance because I know I can’t trust what I see. Then my wardrobe, I have clothes for fat days, less fat days etc. I’ve learnt that long and straight is better than outsize baggy which ironically draw more attention to a person feeling less than comfortable with their size.
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Differently Sane, that’s awful that your weight gain which is drug induced means they believe everything to be ok because it isn’t.
ReplyDeleteIf you’re under eating then this is being masked by the drug induced weight gain and it means that all the health issues associated with under eating will still be a risk for you such as osteoporosis. Infact atypical antipsychotics raise prolactin which impacts on bone density so osteoporosis is a hidden side effect of antipsychotics and now they’ve just increased that risk for you.
Atypical antipsychotics cause weight gain by interfering with glucose metabolism [and they increase appetite and can cause dry mouth hence the need to drink more].
It’s shocking how many people with distressed eating are put on antipsychotics purely for the weight gain, it’s also very cruel.
Hi Joanna, just wanted to say that yes I am still at risk and everything, but in Shrink's defence I wasn't put on an antipsychotic in order to"treat" an ED (I've never been offered treatment, just told to eat more), but rather for other reasons, although I do sometimes wonder if that was a secondary aim, certainly when she thought Mirtazapine was the way forward she told my GP it "might help stabilise [my] appetite" (or words to that affect.
ReplyDeleteI know that some professionals, drugs companies and indeed so-called research recommends APs in the initial stages of anorexia treatment in order to "stabilise" weight and perhaps combat certain cognitions (I'm less convinced over that). But I don't think Shrink would have tried that with me, and I would have refused if she had.
It is however, unfortunately a attitudinal side-effect that professionals have had to the drug-induced weight gain.
Take care,
Differently
Just a quick comment to say that the first reaction by the psychiatric profession was to change my anti-psychotic to a huge dose of Olanzapine- which has been used experimentally to treat anorexia. This caused rapid uncontrollable weight gain and made everything much much worse. It was a horrendous time.
ReplyDeleteI'm a free-range mentalist now (well aside from frequent doses of Zopiclone and the odd patch of benzodiazepine use)and I have had to consistently be "non-compliant" in order to avoid drugs that mess with my weight and therefore my head.
Zoe
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and often they just don't warn you about the side effects... when i was under crisis team at some point (and they merrily disregarded my eating issues because i was overweight) the doctor suggested i go on mirtazapine without mentioning at all that weight gain was a side effect. it was a good thing i new because that would have really messed with my head. it would have been quite dangerous for me, i think.
ReplyDeleteDifferently Sane - Yes some believe that antipsychotics will aid anxiety, help with sleep and then appetite/weight as a secondary aim, but in the 50’s insulin ‘treatment’ was used on anorexics purely to induce rabid hunger, I have a friend who was subjected to that, so I guess I’m more cynical. I also have another friend who is a psych nurse and she was told to deliberately withhold information about weight gain and antipsychotics from one of her patients with anorexic history. She had the guts to tell her patient the truth.I think there is some deceit about the prescribing of antipsychotics to anorexics and I’ve also known people who were prescribed large quantities of 1st generation ‘major tranquillisers’ purely to make forced feeding easier.
ReplyDeleteDrug companies are promoting antipsychotics for anorexia as well as psychosis because obviously it means more profit for them. If you put ‘anorexia and antipsychotics’ into Google lots of papers come up such as this which you might want to read:
http://www.theannals.com/content/41/1/111.short
Clearly some are promoting weight gain/appetite increase, others are saying that they ‘rid the mind of obsessive fear of weight gain’
Even during the times my OCD would only let me eat a few kinds of food, I did not lose weight. My metabolism slowed down, and I would sleep a lot and eat one meal a day, usually the same thing I ate the day before. Disordered eating has never caused me to lose weight, even when the caloric intake was very low. I am overweight. I've had some success losing weight recently, but only because my self esteem has risen high enough that I think I am worth the time of well chosen food and time on the treadmill. Eating well is a huge time sink, and if you are already struggling with MIs, it is too hard to manage. I agree with you, health professionals judge too much by what they see in front of them. I've had people say "Well, you aren't starving" during the same weeks I can eat ONLY oatmeal and tea. Frustrating.
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I hate food. I love food. I am morbidly obese and I cannot stop eating vast amounts of sweet things. I can manage a little while but then end up going crazy and eating anything I can find. Even things I hate. Even things that make me feel ill. I put on weight after I started being mental, but no one has ever asked me anything - beyond telling me to diet and saying "sorry, the meds we put you on have given you diabetes" - even though I have often longed for them to.
ReplyDeleteI try to diet - because I know the thinner I am the better a person I will be. And no one will shout abuse at me in the streets or come up to me and demand to know what I am doing to lose weight. But every time I try I can't stand it, I feel like my head will explode, I feel anxious and frantic and I want to self harm again.
And all for bloody sugar.
Sorry.